The first passenger list of Ludwig Koberstein with Wife Caroline and son Gottlieb was found in the Hamburg passenger list.  The listing is identical for Gottlieb Koberstein including tghe birth location which doesn't make sense, because one if father and on son and it is unlikely they were born in the same place.  I assume this is the

Hamburg passenger list:

Name: Ludwig Koberstein

Departure Date: 29 Jul 1854

Destination: Hull

Birth Place: Gorrizim, Preußen (Germany)

Occupation: Landleute

Ship Name: Archimedes

Captain: Jäger

Shipping line: Elbe-Humber Dampfschiffahrt Gesellschaft

Ship Type: Dampfschiff

Accommodation: ohne Angabe

Port of Departure: Hamburg

Port of Arrival: Hull

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII B 1 Band 001

Household Members:

Name Age

Gottlieb Koberstein

Ludwig Koberstein

Caroline Koberstein

Before continuing further a little background information and definitions are helpful in understanding these records. During the second half of the 19th century there were two routes one could take in going to the new world. The direct route would take an emigrant directly from the port they were leaving from to America. The ship would often stop in other ports along the way for additional supplies and passengers, but the emigrants would not debark but would continue on the same ship all the way to America.

On the other hand, emigrants taking an indirect route would be only taking the Hamburg ship for part of the trip and there would be a transfer to another shipping line for subsequent sections of the journey. The most common indirect route was from Hamburg to Hull, England. Emigrants would then take a train across England to Liverpool, London, Southampton, or another port (most went to Liverpool) and continue they journey to the New World from there.